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  • #46
    Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

    Originally posted by '70 Grad View Post
    I think the effects of the Price Lab disaster (which was the right move) really hurt the university




    We also dropped a bunch of majors.

    Fewer JCs transferring in?
    The majors that were dropped accounted for less than 100 students.

    It was 22 BA/S, 20 minors and 16 graduate programs. The programs cut represented less than 2% of the degrees awarded at UNI. The list can be found here: http://www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms...dfF33AB662.pdf

    It was programs such as:
    BS Applied Phsyics
    BA Physics (The BS program was saved...yep, we had a BA and BS program in it)
    BA Microbiology
    Most of the "emphasis" majors in Geology and Geography. The majors still exist but now there isn't 7 "emphasis" degrees.
    The world languages - french, teaching French, German, teaching German, Russian. These program still exist as certificates.

    The MA programs there were cut were much the same. Though the STEM programs were hit hard here.

    Sadly, what happened in the BOR approved stripping our science department.

    The link also shows how few students were in that specific area of emphasis in the major and how few were graduating. We are talking able to count on two hands the number of students from each program and one hand for graduates from each.
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    So yes, the headlines of "UNI CUTS 60 PROGRAMS ALONG WITH CLOSING THE LAB SCHOOL" did a lot, and I mean a lot, of damage across the state. The true negative impact of going "You can still get your biology major, it just won't have "such and such" emphasis attached to it" is minimal. The impact of those headlines, plus the attempted censure by the faculty, plus the ISU/Iowa lobbyist taking full advantage of that? Immense.

    As I mentioned, you can see the immediate impact. At the start of that year there were 13,100. Fall enrollment, just 6 months after all of this, was 900 students less.


    It's now been 5 classes. We have a new president with a directive to grow the university. We have 4 straight freshman classes bigger than the last. We have the largest freshman class on campus since 2008. We have a chance, though it will take a ton of work, to grow back to 14,000+. We HAVE to get over 14,000. To be involved like a conference like the MAC we need to be about double the size we are. The smallest MAC school is 18,700. The average is is about 25K. Strides MUST be taken to get to 15,000 or 16,000 at a minimum.

    Heck, look at our conference mates that are public schools in the MVC
    MSU 25K
    ISUR 21K
    SIU 16K
    WSU 15K
    ISUB 14K

    Add in the MVFC and we are the second smallest school, a head of only the University of South Dakota - and all of the Dakota schools are growing at an astonishing rate.

    The decision to scale back to the scale that Koob made was short sided. It's 2017 and we have made significant improvements to on campus housing options, and have more off campus options. We have to make a push to get back to 14,000+.
    Last edited by claw; 03-09-2017, 04:02 PM.

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    • #47
      Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

      Isn't there a push to bring in more out of state students? That would help.

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      • #48
        Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

        Agreed, claw. It was the publicity more than the actual number of students affected.

        I was surprised at WSU's enrollment. Thought this "major research university" was 20k or more.

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        • #49
          Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

          Originally posted by '70 Grad View Post
          Agreed, claw. It was the publicity more than the actual number of students affected.

          I was surprised at WSU's enrollment. Thought this "major research university" was 20k or more.
          You left out Urban. They're a 'major urban research university'.

          I spent a month in Wichita one weekend. That ain't urban...
          #MACtion

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          • #50
            Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

            Originally posted by '70 Grad View Post
            Agreed, claw. It was the publicity more than the actual number of students affected.

            I was surprised at WSU's enrollment. Thought this "major research university" was 20k or more.
            Agreed. From 2015 to 2016 they added over 3,700 new students. The strange part is their enrollment actually dropped 21 students.

            The also enrolled their largest freshman class ever - a massive 1,476 freshman.

            The more I look at WSU the more they look like a "second phase" JUCO. You got your AA at the first JUCO. Come here to get your BA "JUCO" degree. It's the same look we get on their basketball recruting. They take more JUCO and prep school players than any other program. They seem to build their university around JUCO transfers as well.

            Enrollment research is interesting. The amount of research and planning that one could get lost in with recruiting students and creating recruiting plans is crazy
            Last edited by claw; 03-09-2017, 05:55 PM.

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            • #51
              Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

              Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
              You left out Urban. They're a 'major urban research university'.

              I spent a month in Wichita one weekend. That ain't urban...
              One thing WSU should have going for it is aerospace, given the presence of that industry. Short of that, it's basically got nothing of note minus the Koch brothers and a notorious serial killer.

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              • #52
                Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                Originally posted by ronfitch View Post
                It has pretty much leveled off the past four Fall semesters, within a couple hundred students.

                Fall enrollment grew from late '80s (mid-to-high 11k) through the '90s to peak at just over 14k in 2001. In 2002, then-President Koob announced 'we are planning and taking action to reduce our enrollment to match our resources.' (https://uni.edu/newsroom/uni-fall-enrollment-at-13926br).

                Fall Semester Enrollment:
                • 1981 . . . . 10954
                • 1982 . . . . 10988
                • 1983 . . . . 11204
                • 1984 . . . . 11161
                • 1985 . . . . 11514
                • 1986 . . . . 11540
                • 1987 . . . .
                • 1988 . . . . 11772
                • 1989 . . . . 11645
                • 1990 . . . . 12638
                • 1991 . . . . 13163
                • 1992 . . . . 13045
                • 1993 . . . . 12717
                • 1994 . . . . 12572
                • 1995 . . . . 12802
                • 1996 . . . . 12957
                • 1997 . . . . 13108
                • 1998 . . . . 13329
                • 1999 . . . . 13553
                • 2000 . . . . 13774
                • 2001 . . . . 14070
                • 2002 . . . . 13926
                • 2003 . . . . 13441
                • 2004 . . . . 12824
                • 2005 . . . . 12513
                • 2006 . . . . 12260
                • 2007 . . . . 12609
                • 2008 . . . . 12908
                • 2009 . . . . 13080
                • 2010 . . . . 13201
                • 2011 . . . . 13168
                • 2012 . . . . 12273
                • 2013 . . . . 12159
                • 2014 . . . . 11928
                • 2015 . . . . 11981
                • 2016 . . . . 11905


                https://www.library.uni.edu/collecti...uni-fact-sheet (through 2014)
                https://uni.edu/newsroom/uni-release...llment-numbers (2015)
                https://uni.edu/newsroom/uni-announc...llment-numbers (2016)
                I have to think a very large part of this enrollment decrease the last 7 yearso is due to some very aggressive marketing and intentional enrollment growth by the land grant university down the road.
                Winning is more fun than losing.

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                • #53
                  Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                  Originally posted by Blue42 View Post
                  I have to think a very large part of this enrollment decrease the last 7 yearso is due to some very aggressive marketing and intentional enrollment growth by the land grant university down the road.
                  Then get in the mix and compete. I doubt you're opposed to that, so it's more of a rhetorical answer.

                  If total Iowa high school enrollment is dropping (makes sense it would be), then start getting aggressive with surrounding states. It's not rocket science.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                    Why is the state opposed to tuition reciprocity again?

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                    • #55
                      Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                      Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
                      It's not rocket science.
                      that's good, since the Regents won't let UNI do rocket science.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                        Originally posted by EVSPanther View Post
                        Why is the state opposed to tuition reciprocity again?
                        About 15,000 Illinois residents paying out of state tuition to the University of Iowa....

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                        • #57
                          Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                          So either keep your 15k and give general fund money to UNI or allow reciprocity ...if only politics were easier!

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                          • #58
                            Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                            You wouldn't have to include Illinois in a reciprocity agreement.

                            Even just having reciprocity with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Missouri and Kansas would be huge.
                            #MACtion

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                            • #59
                              Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                              Originally posted by vbfan19 View Post
                              that's good, since the Regents won't let UNI do rocket science.
                              The irony, of course, is that in hiring Mark Nook as president ...

                              "Well, that escalated quickly."

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                              • #60
                                Re: Any updates on the coaching staff?

                                Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
                                Then get in the mix and compete. I doubt you're opposed to that, so it's more of a rhetorical answer.

                                If total Iowa high school enrollment is dropping (makes sense it would be), then start getting aggressive with surrounding states. It's not rocket science.
                                Yeah I don't disagree.

                                One of my kids went through the college search process a few years ago.

                                Her campus visit experience at UNI was not good. She also visited ISU and they did a terrific job. That made a difference.

                                She ended up going out of state on a scholly but her day at UNI did not help entice her to enroll. They need to up their game on the marketing end. They've got the product.
                                Winning is more fun than losing.

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