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Old 11-23-2016, 08:38 AM   #1
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WSU has its first real test today and the next few days at Atlantis.
Today vs LSU at 11:00.
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:46 AM   #2
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I saw a bit of the Tulsa game and they looked good. Frankamp didn't do much
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:52 PM   #3
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WSU has its first real test today and the next few days at Atlantis.
Today vs LSU at 11:00.
Not much of a test so far. Up 46-19 at half
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:54 PM   #4
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I'm not sure if that halftime score says more about Wichita State or LSU.
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:02 PM   #5
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I'm not sure if that halftime score says more about Wichita State or LSU.
A little of both. I stand by my statement in another thread. WSU is better this year than last year. Offense is way better, defense is just as good.
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Not much of a test so far. Up 46-19 at half
Right. Nice first half.
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Old 11-23-2016, 02:02 PM   #7
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Looked better than nice to me. Most of the game they made LSU look like Coe did against UNI
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Old 11-23-2016, 02:19 PM   #8
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Impressive margin of victory, although who knows how good or bad LSU is (almost certainly no where near a bubble team). They were barely a bubble team last year with Ben. I'd say RPI 100-120.

I still need to see more from the Shockers to declare them even as good as last year. Their next game is certainly a measuring stick.
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Interesting that the winner of the first game and winner of the last game tonight play tomorrow. Could definitely benefit Wichita.
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Interesting that the winner of the first game and winner of the last game tonight play tomorrow. Could definitely benefit Wichita.
Kind of the opposite of the gauntlet the NCAA threw at WSU last year
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Old 11-24-2016, 12:56 PM   #11
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I watched some of Louisville-ODU yesterday. I wanted WSU to get a chance at Louisville, but rooting for Pitino just felt too disgusting.
Should be a good game today. If Louisville plays like last night, this will be fun for WSU.
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Is WSU really a favorite in this game?
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Old 11-24-2016, 02:55 PM   #13
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A part of me wants Wichita to win this game for the valley, a part of me wants to see them get steamrolled so they can stop talking about how incredible their young talent is
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A part of me wants Wichita to win this game for the valley, a part of me wants to see them get steamrolled so they can stop talking about how incredible their young talent is
Don't worry, you will have multiple years to watch this team steamroll the valley
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Don't worry, you will have multiple years to watch this team steamroll the valley
Does it give you some sort of personal satisfaction to post this on another team's board?
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Old 11-24-2016, 05:09 PM   #16
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Does it give you some sort of personal satisfaction to post this on another team's board?
Probably as much as the poster that is hoping the only team that is keeping the valley relevant gets steamrolled...
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Any Shocker win before Dec 30 is definitely a good win for UNI and the MVC. Their success is important, just as our success is important to them. Right now, UNI and Wichita are the Gonzaga/St.Marys of the MVC (except both UNI and Wichita have received multiple at large bids in the past 12 years). Our successes elevate the league and one another. They are playing at a very high level. Louisville is so tough right now, and hopefully the Shockers can get Michigan State tomorrow.
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Any Shocker win before Dec 30 is definitely a good win for UNI and the MVC. Their success is important, just as our success is important to them. Right now, UNI and Wichita are the Gonzaga/St.Marys of the MVC (except both UNI and Wichita have received multiple at large bids in the past 12 years). Our successes elevate the league and one another. They are playing at a very high level. Louisville is so tough right now, and hopefully the Shockers can get Michigan State tomorrow.
This .. WSU needs UNI to do well in Non con as UNI needs WSU to do well. The rest of the league is constantly proving they can't help
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Any Shocker win before Dec 30 is definitely a good win for UNI and the MVC. Their success is important, just as our success is important to them. Right now, UNI and Wichita are the Gonzaga/St.Marys of the MVC (except both UNI and Wichita have received multiple at large bids in the past 12 years). Our successes elevate the league and one another. They are playing at a very high level. Louisville is so tough right now, and hopefully the Shockers can get Michigan State tomorrow.
Very true.

Even a Indiana State almost beat Iowa State & the refs today. That would of been good for the MVC.

ISUblue has 26 fouls and 20 turnovers and lose by 2....................
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Probably as much as the poster that is hoping the only team that is keeping the valley relevant gets steamrolled...
Really? A top 10 ranking, a 30 win season, a Valley tourney title, a half courter in the NCAA tourney that everyone was talking about, a gut wrenching loss followed by national props for how our young men conducted themselves, etc., etc. in just the last two years. And that's not even mentioning Ali & KU. Yeah, it's only WSU's world. Get over yourself.

I thought Marshall and the slimy Kochs were the only reason to root against the Shockers; please don't give me another.

Oh, the irony of saying your team is the only reason to follow the Valley on a UNI board.
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Probably as much as the poster that is hoping the only team that is keeping the valley relevant gets steamrolled...
"the only team"...


LOL, if you are going to insist on being utterly dismisive and delususional, its probably best to keep those posts over at shockernet.
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Probably as much as the poster that is hoping the only team that is keeping the valley relevant gets steamrolled...
I certainly meant a small part. As fun as it is to keep hearing how bad the rest of the valley is from your lot, yea those feelings certainly exist. You played a great team tight, so did we, I'm looking forward to our matchups ahead
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Shocker fans are the best.

They love to talk about how they're the only relevant program in the Valley, you bring up what UNI has done for the past 15 years and they go all super-defensive.

UNI and Wichita need to be partnering to either make the Valley better or get the hell out together.
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Very true.

Even a Indiana State almost beat Iowa State & the refs today. That would of been good for the MVC.

ISUblue has 26 fouls and 20 turnovers and lose by 2....................
Along with Missouri st blowing a late lead against DePaul and Illinois st going all Illinois st and blowing a game against TCU, many missed opportunities.
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IMO, the Indiana state loss today was more a reflection on some really bad calls down the stretch. How often do you see 3 charges (2 questionable IMO) in the final 2 minutes of a game? The 5th foul on the InSU guy when the guy behind him tried to go over the back and thus got foul shots was bad too.
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ISU was robbed. It was pathetic. 3, THREE terrible charge calls, and a missed call on Iowa State on a drive to the lane. Highway robbery, Sycamores deserved to win the game.
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Apologies, I made the assumption that it was clear that UNI was excluded from the "only" comment. I didn't figure you guys were rooting against your own team. My point was that without WSU making the valley relevant, it would be all on UNI. That's why my next post said that WSU and UNI need each other to succeed in Non con
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Apologies, I made the assumption that it was clear that UNI was excluded from the "only" comment. I didn't figure you guys were rooting against your own team. My point was that without WSU making the valley relevant, it would be all on UNI. That's why my next post said that WSU and UNI need each other to succeed in Non con
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Apologies, I made the assumption that it was clear that UNI was excluded from the "only" comment. I didn't figure you guys were rooting against your own team. My point was that without WSU making the valley relevant, it would be all on UNI. That's why my next post said that WSU and UNI need each other to succeed in Non con
Only implies one team. Something like "one of the two teams keeping the Valley relevant" would've brought no reaction at all.
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I thought WSU looked pretty good, although not as good as last year. McDuffie still seems to me to be their best player. He was the one player who really matched Louisville and was able to get his own shot when needed. Conor, Shamet, Brown and Reaves all are good players, too.

Two weak points:

1. No point guard hurts them, Conor should be playing the role Bo played for us last year, e's wasting possession time running the point. They just don't have a true point guard, they'll have to just play with what they have.
2. Mediocre post play. Shaq's only post move is sticking out his butt. Nobody else really shows much either. It might work with a lot of undersized valley teams, we'll see.
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Only implies one team. Something like "one of the two teams keeping the Valley relevant" would've brought no reaction at all.
Should have said "only other team" rather than just "only team" .. one missed word makes a world of difference lol
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Trees vs Trees today. Interesting.
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Close losses keep coming for the Valley. WSU and the Trees both fall to power 5 foes in close games.
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Shocker fans are the best.

They love to talk about how they're the only relevant program in the Valley, you bring up what UNI has done for the past 15 years and they go all super-defensive.

UNI and Wichita need to be partnering to either make the Valley better or get the hell out together.
SOME Shocker fans consider us the only relevant program--the annoying fans that every school seems to have. However, I think a large majority of us recognize the tremendous success UNI has had, respect the hell out of your program and especially your coach, and most of all, appreciate the FACT that UNI is the only other program in this conference that can compete on the national level.

I completely agree with your last comment. It's us and you, we're in this mess of a conference together, so let's support each other and make the most of it until we can help each other get out.
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Rocky is correct. Most Shocker fans realize how relevant UNI is. Certainly the program that we respect the most over the past few years. Great coach and tremendous and classy players. Other teams have had their times and hopefully will come back, but for the moment at least, it is pretty much WSU and UNI.
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