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Old 02-27-2017, 02:40 PM   #1
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Anyone heard anything since Simmonds and Burris were hired?
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One has left is what i heard
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So what have you heard beyond this? Would love any concrete info you could give
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Greg Peterson has disappeared from everything associated with UNI. Guess we still need a receivers coach...
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See above. That is it
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Before anyone gets too negative, this happens. I'm not certain how often in the coaching, but it it's not uncommon in the corporate world. You accept something, but play out others for better opportunity or offers. The better one comes, you bolt. Nothing wrong with that.
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Usually, the only time the entire coaching staff is replaced in off season is when the HC receives the "full support of the AD", if you know what I mean. If you need clarification, UNIDad can translate.

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Heard today the offense Cordinator quit....

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We don't have an OC that could have quit.

Salmon retired and Mahaffey left for WKU about 2 or 3 months ago
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One of the new guys they hired quit and he was going to be the OC

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They're quitting before they're even hired?
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They hired two new coached but never listed positions. Maybe one of them quit.
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Does anyone still have faith in Farley leading us to a natty or is he over the hill?
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Does anyone still have faith in Farley leading us to a natty or is he over the hill?
I have more faith in coach Don Eursha
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The absolute worst thing about basketbll being over is that it diverts our full attention to this disaster. Its March 7th, and we have, what, 3 total coaches?
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The absolute worst thing about basketbll being over is that it diverts our full attention to this disaster. Its March 7th, and we have, what, 3 total coaches?
No, it's fine. It's normal to lose all your coaches and not replace them.
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Player-coaches, save on the budget.

Kind of surprised the Illinois schools weren't forced to do this by their state leg two years ago.
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Player-coaches, save on the budget.

Kind of surprised the Illinois schools weren't forced to do this by their state leg two years ago.
It wouldn't be a shocking development. Don't bother playing any of the Illinois State Lottery games. They're not paying any of the winners, and haven't for a few months. Seriously.

Illinois' budget issues have to have a trickle down effect on the FCS level state schools. Nothing yet to my knowledge, but it's bound to be a matter of time.
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This is pretty much a good indicator of our place in the world:

"Quarterbacks coach Ken O?Keefe, who spent 13 years as Iowa?s offensive coordinator under Ferentz, signed a three-year deal that pays him $540,000 per year. Offensive line coach Tim Polasek was hired at $325,000 and wide receivers coach Kelton Copeland will make $225,000. Both have one-year deals." Marc Morehouse, The Gazette, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:13 pm


I believe Polasek was NDSU's offensive coordinator and was making in the area of $150,000 with the Bison.

Bill Salmon for all his years on the staff was a little over $90,000.

For all the criticizing about our ability to attract and keep coaches in my mind it all comes back to money. Some schools have it we don't.
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[QUOTE=northwest iowa panther;456066]This is pretty much a good indicator of our place in the world:

"Quarterbacks coach Ken O?Keefe, who spent 13 years as Iowa?s offensive coordinator under Ferentz, signed a three-year deal that pays him $540,000 per year. Offensive line coach Tim Polasek was hired at $325,000 and wide receivers coach Kelton Copeland will make $225,000. Both have one-year deals." Marc Morehouse, The Gazette, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:13 pm


I believe Polasek was NDSU's offensive coordinator and was making in the area of $150,000 with the Bison.

Bill Salmon for all his years on the staff was a little over $90,000.

For all the criticizing about our ability to attract and keep coaches in my mind it all comes back to money. Some schools have it we don't.[/QUOTE

Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure Salmon took a pay cut so some of the other coaches got paid more.
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This is pretty much a good indicator of our place in the world:

"Quarterbacks coach Ken O?Keefe, who spent 13 years as Iowa?s offensive coordinator under Ferentz, signed a three-year deal that pays him $540,000 per year. Offensive line coach Tim Polasek was hired at $325,000 and wide receivers coach Kelton Copeland will make $225,000. Both have one-year deals." Marc Morehouse, The Gazette, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:13 pm


I believe Polasek was NDSU's offensive coordinator and was making in the area of $150,000 with the Bison.

Bill Salmon for all his years on the staff was a little over $90,000.

For all the criticizing about our ability to attract and keep coaches in my mind it all comes back to money. Some schools have it we don't.[/QUOTE

Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure Salmon took a pay cut so some of the other coaches got paid more.
Well...He went from OC to RB coach when Joe Davis was hired...So he likely took a pay cut when he took a smaller job.
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This is pretty much a good indicator of our place in the world:

"Quarterbacks coach Ken O?Keefe, who spent 13 years as Iowa?s offensive coordinator under Ferentz, signed a three-year deal that pays him $540,000 per year. Offensive line coach Tim Polasek was hired at $325,000 and wide receivers coach Kelton Copeland will make $225,000. Both have one-year deals." Marc Morehouse, The Gazette, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:13 pm


I believe Polasek was NDSU's offensive coordinator and was making in the area of $150,000 with the Bison.

Bill Salmon for all his years on the staff was a little over $90,000.

For all the criticizing about our ability to attract and keep coaches in my mind it all comes back to money. Some schools have it we don't.[/QUOTE

Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure Salmon took a pay cut so some of the other coaches got paid more.
Yeah I think we're very competitive with Farley's salary but not on the assistants.
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This is pretty much a good indicator of our place in the world:

"Quarterbacks coach Ken O?Keefe, who spent 13 years as Iowa?s offensive coordinator under Ferentz, signed a three-year deal that pays him $540,000 per year. Offensive line coach Tim Polasek was hired at $325,000 and wide receivers coach Kelton Copeland will make $225,000. Both have one-year deals." Marc Morehouse, The Gazette, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:13 pm


I believe Polasek was NDSU's offensive coordinator and was making in the area of $150,000 with the Bison.

Bill Salmon for all his years on the staff was a little over $90,000.

For all the criticizing about our ability to attract and keep coaches in my mind it all comes back to money. Some schools have it we don't.
It's apples and oranges to compare the payroll and budgets of a P5 team, in a conference with it's own TV network, to a FCS school. A legit comparison would between FCS programs.

Are the assistants here paid comparable to IL St, Richmond, James Madison, Montana, etc? I honestly don't know.
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Pretty sure that he was comparing Salmon's 90K salary to Polasek's 150K salary at NDSU.
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It's apples and oranges to compare the payroll and budgets of a P5 team, in a conference with it's own TV network, to a FCS school. A legit comparison would between FCS programs.

Are the assistants here paid comparable to IL St, Richmond, James Madison, Montana, etc? I honestly don't know.
Uh? I'm saying our coaches leave here to go to places that pay more. I'm not comparing anything. Many people come on here saying coaches leave because of problems within the staff. I'm saying our success rate of hiring good people leads to them going to places which can pay more.

As far as comparing apples to apples: JMU FCS 2016 National Champions (this information is from the official website)

James Madison University competes in the NCAA I (Colonial Athletic Association) and performs on and off the field. Ranked #201 in our overall Best Colleges ranking, James Madison University has a Learfield Score of 59.
James Madison University competes in 16 sports and has a total of 518 student athletes: 215 men and 303 women.
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Uh? I'm saying our coaches leave here to go to places that pay more. I'm not comparing anything. Many people come on here saying coaches leave because of problems within the staff. I'm saying our success rate of hiring good people leads to them going to places which can pay more.

As far as comparing apples to apples: JMU FCS 2016 National Champions (this information is from the official website)

James Madison University competes in the NCAA I (Colonial Athletic Association) and performs on and off the field. Ranked #201 in our overall Best Colleges ranking, James Madison University has a Learfield Score of 59.
James Madison University competes in 16 sports and has a total of 518 student athletes: 215 men and 303 women.
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James Madison is also the single highest subsidised program in all of D1

The most recent numbers - from USA Today's database for NCAA spending - shows they have expenses, and revenue, of 44,825,701. They received $35,837,395 in subsidy. Let me type that out so the massiveness of that hits you - THIRTY FIVE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE of their 44 million dollar budget is from subsidy. That is 79.95% of their budget. Which is also very nearly the highest % of budget subsidized in the nation.

That's the most in the country. Only one other school is over 30 million - Air Force.

Add 24 million dollars to UNIs athletic budget and you get an idea of the impact that would/could/does have. Or, to phrase it another way. In terms of % of budget subsided while keeping the same budget at UNI - UNI would get an extra 7.5 million dollars from subsidies.

Want to know where those subsidies come from?

They get $35,287,957 from student fees. Yep. Their financial aid site is very selective with what they share and what they show. It's difficult to find a true fee break down. From what I can tell each student pays about $1,700 directly to athletics as part of their tuition. Their student fees tied directly to athletics has more than doubled since 2005 when it was just at 17,000,000

Where as at UNI it's something like $200 per student and getting above that level is almost impossible. In 2015 UNI got $1,995,455 in student fees. In 2005 it was 1,111,067.

Think about that. Just actually sit there and think about that for a bit
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What is exactly stopping the University from increasing these student fees, heck if you made them $500 dollars that would help our athletic programs immensely. Furthermore I don't think that an extra $300 dollars a year would deter many students from coming here.
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When was the last time student fees were increased? Has it kept up with the tuition and board increases? I think I know the answer already...
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Brings back Big Ten Money at double the rate Iowa has paid us
Gets us a slice of their ESPN contract
Football travel is actually better

Weekday football sucks, but we don't draw anything anyway and this might give it a shot in the arm and its only November where there isn't much tailgating atmosphere anyway.

We could move to the MAC today and be the best MBB program, the best VB program and be top 3 in Track, WBB and Softball, not to mention they actually sponsor wrestling where we're already top 2.
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Doesn't the BOR essentially consider student fees the same as general university support? I mean subsidizing Athletics is subsidizing. I don't think they really care if it's student fee bucket or others it's still out of the University bucket.

https://tuition.uni.edu/17-18-undergrad-tuition-fees
Does all of the student activity fee go to athletics? $59.50/semester

If there's 13,000 students that's over $1.5 Million already.

Isn't that nearly the same amount of money that the PSC raises each year? We have 113,000 Alumni and I don't know how many fans and their combined contributions now equals that of 13,000 students?

I don't think the students are who we should lean on for more $$.
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Doesn't the BOR essentially consider student fees the same as general university support? I mean subsidizing Athletics is subsidizing. I don't think they really care if it's student fee bucket or others it's still out of the University bucket.

https://tuition.uni.edu/17-18-undergrad-tuition-fees
Does all of the student activity fee go to athletics? $59.50/semester

If there's 13,000 students that's over $1.5 Million already.

Isn't that nearly the same amount of money that the PSC raises each year? We have 113,000 Alumni and I don't know how many fans and their combined contributions now equals that of 13,000 students?

I don't think the students are who we should lean on for more $$.
UNI's enrollment has dropped to under 12,000. Fall 16 numbers so 11,906. Which is down from 15. Which is down from 14. Which is down from 13. Noticing a trend?

The issue the BOR has is money coming from the state going to the athletic department, student fees they don't care about. Iowa State is over 2 million in student fees and Iowa is about a million. They can be kept low because of their TV money. Student fees are considered separate that the general fund and university support.

As of the FY15 numbers UNI's funding:
2.2m in ticket stales
3.02m in contributions
2.8m in rights/licencing
1.9m in student fees
8.7m in school funds (general fund is counted in this but not all of this)
1.7m from other sources

Move that student fee up to 6m and drop school funds to 4.7m and it's essentially what the BOR has been pushing for as it's about 4.3m from the general fund going to athletics. Which is paid right back to the school, which makes their entire issue with the funds being used stupid.
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So - why is our enrollment dropping so steadily?
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So - why is our enrollment dropping so steadily?
I lost the numbers, I used to have all fall enrollments starting about 1998. From what I remember, and it's been a while since I looked at them, enrollment grew slowly from 98 to about 2011. It started dropping at about 10% a year (roughly 100) students since. It was accelerated/made worse by the complete over reaction and misinformation war that was waged against President Allen over the Price Lab situation. That happened late 2011 and was official in Feb 2012. Enrollment in fall 2012 and fall 2013 dropped by nearly 700-1,000 students from what I remember. Freshman classes were smaller, coupled with our retention rate caused a massive ripple. It's why we've now seen 4 straight years of growth in the freshman class. The students with "hard feelings" are now about 99% gone. We are on our second president since then (also doesn't help). I think we are at "rock bottom" more or less and can move forward

It's odd. Then enrollment is dropping but according to the numbers this year the freshman class is over 2,000 and up about 100 over last year. It's the largest freshman class since 2008 and is the 4th straight year of the freshman class being larger than the one coming in. It seems like it's a retention issue. HOWEVER, the freshman retention rate from 2015 freshman was 85.9, the highest ever recorded in UNI history. There has to be a retention issue after year 2 or 3 but I haven't seen an "Average" retention rate in a few years (which furthers my thought on it)

4 year graudation rate is up and the highest ever recorded
5 year graduation rate is up and the highest ever recorded
Average ACT and GPA of incoming freshman is getting higher.
Most non-Iowa resident students enrolled ever
More minority students than ever before

The numbers are odd to study, and I'm sure it's baffling for the admissions office. I wish I could go "Looks like this" but I see nothing to indicate why it's dropping. Based on freshman class sizes, freshman retention rate, etc... we should be growing, but we aren't. I also wonder what our transfer in rate looks like.

I'd be real interested to see a 5 year strategic plan for growing enrollment. And/or a review of the last 5. Sadly, I think the effects of the Price Lab disaster (which was the right move) really hurt the university


I think that all happened right as Iowa and Iowa Stat were able to capalalize on it. Iowa State is "stopping" their growth on purpose. They are just shy of 37K. Over the last decade they've grown by 44%. They were very aggressive in recruiting kids. Iowa is staying aggresive. They are growing by 1,200-1,500 students every year and want to get that number to 2,000 a year by 2020. Essentially they want to get to 6,500 incoming freshman every year.

UNI doesn't have the money to recruit/advertise like those two. They also seem to refuse too. I drive all over eastern Iowa every week. I see one or two UNI signs. None of them outside of the CF/Wloo area. I see dozens of Iowa/Iowa State signs. Couple that with the Price Lab situation and it set UNI back pretty bad it seems.

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